Comments on: The Future Of ISO & Noise http://www.prophotoshow.net/blog/2008/03/08/the-future-of-iso-noise/ Photography Podcast. news, tips, inspiration, Photoshp, Lightroom, Worlflow Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:49:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Al http://www.prophotoshow.net/blog/2008/03/08/the-future-of-iso-noise/#comment-71698 Al Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:55:56 +0000 http://www.prophotoshow.net/blog/2008/03/08/the-future-of-iso-noise/#comment-71698 Nice thought for the day Gavin - ISO is VERY important to the events photographer and I am sure than Canon are not far behind Nikon with performance in the 5D Mark II (7D?? whatever it is called!) Nice thought for the day Gavin - ISO is VERY important to the events photographer and I am sure than Canon are not far behind Nikon with performance in the 5D Mark II (7D?? whatever it is called!)

]]> By: Gavin (PPS) http://www.prophotoshow.net/blog/2008/03/08/the-future-of-iso-noise/#comment-71545 Gavin (PPS) Tue, 11 Mar 2008 03:39:43 +0000 http://www.prophotoshow.net/blog/2008/03/08/the-future-of-iso-noise/#comment-71545 Corey you don't need to be a fan of Ken as far as I'm concerned, but I write info I feel is reliant. I linked to Ken for reference info, and my article was in no way determined by him. Also this is not an article to bash Canon or Nikon. You've just decided to read that into it. Myself as you probably know am a Canon user, and I have no switch plans in the works. Nonetheless Nikon is now ahead of Canon in ISO simply by the fact that they can go far higher and this is a big asset to many photogs. As the same levels Canon may have as good, or better noise. But Nikon has set themself ahead and Canon now has to catch up just like Nikon had to in the past. Corey you don’t need to be a fan of Ken as far as I’m concerned, but I write info I feel is reliant. I linked to Ken for reference info, and my article was in no way determined by him. Also this is not an article to bash Canon or Nikon. You’ve just decided to read that into it.

Myself as you probably know am a Canon user, and I have no switch plans in the works. Nonetheless Nikon is now ahead of Canon in ISO simply by the fact that they can go far higher and this is a big asset to many photogs.

As the same levels Canon may have as good, or better noise. But Nikon has set themself ahead and Canon now has to catch up just like Nikon had to in the past.

]]> By: Corey http://www.prophotoshow.net/blog/2008/03/08/the-future-of-iso-noise/#comment-71518 Corey Tue, 11 Mar 2008 02:18:20 +0000 http://www.prophotoshow.net/blog/2008/03/08/the-future-of-iso-noise/#comment-71518 That test linked to is bunk. Ken Rockwell is a puppet, for the record. He shot the test in JPEG. The problem? The 5D doesn't do much noise reduction in the camera, but the color noise isn't problematic with default settings in ACR. Sure, you could say that if we were all out there shooting JPEG then it would be a fair test, but since the D3 is designed to work better for people that shoot sports (lots of JPEGs really fast) and the 5D is designed more to be a studio camera, comparing their JPEG performance is bunk. Let's not even bother mentioning the fact that the 5D is nearly 3 years old. The D3, by comparison, is about 4 months old. All this and we haven't touched on the fact that the test was shot with a Nikon lens or the fact that the D3 costs twice what a 5D does. Had Ken been less of a Nikon puppet he might have compared the D3 to, say, the 1D Mark III that is it's main competitor. They're both speed shooters selling at $5,000 with comparable specs. Only then, the tests might not have sold nearly as many D3's. Linking to the article highly devalued the information you present in my freshly forming opinion. That test linked to is bunk. Ken Rockwell is a puppet, for the record.

He shot the test in JPEG. The problem? The 5D doesn’t do much noise reduction in the camera, but the color noise isn’t problematic with default settings in ACR. Sure, you could say that if we were all out there shooting JPEG then it would be a fair test, but since the D3 is designed to work better for people that shoot sports (lots of JPEGs really fast) and the 5D is designed more to be a studio camera, comparing their JPEG performance is bunk. Let’s not even bother mentioning the fact that the 5D is nearly 3 years old. The D3, by comparison, is about 4 months old. All this and we haven’t touched on the fact that the test was shot with a Nikon lens or the fact that the D3 costs twice what a 5D does.

Had Ken been less of a Nikon puppet he might have compared the D3 to, say, the 1D Mark III that is it’s main competitor. They’re both speed shooters selling at $5,000 with comparable specs. Only then, the tests might not have sold nearly as many D3’s.

Linking to the article highly devalued the information you present in my freshly forming opinion.

]]> By: Stu http://www.prophotoshow.net/blog/2008/03/08/the-future-of-iso-noise/#comment-71313 Stu Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:07:20 +0000 http://www.prophotoshow.net/blog/2008/03/08/the-future-of-iso-noise/#comment-71313 I think that Ken Rockwell's test between the Canon 5D and the Nikon D3 was a little, shall we say, overexposed? I am a 5D owner and have found the camera to be superb when operating in low light. Why anyone should want to push their ISO up to 25,600 is beyond me. I took some decent images at a comedy festival where the lighting was basically one spot on the act and the 5D was at ISO 1600, 70-200mm lens @ f/2,8, shutter speed 1/80th. I was quite happy with the results. I thought photography was about knowledge - not about tricks and settings that take the skill out of imagery. I think that Ken Rockwell’s test between the Canon 5D and the Nikon D3 was a little, shall we say, overexposed? I am a 5D owner and have found the camera to be superb when operating in low light. Why anyone should want to push their ISO up to 25,600 is beyond me. I took some decent images at a comedy festival where the lighting was basically one spot on the act and the 5D was at ISO 1600, 70-200mm lens @ f/2,8, shutter speed 1/80th. I was quite happy with the results.

I thought photography was about knowledge - not about tricks and settings that take the skill out of imagery.

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